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thgreatoz
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago #1
Are there any figures about the difference in gas mileage between cars driving gasohol (10% alcohol) and regular gas?
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago #2
gasohol than on unadulterated gasoline. However, real-world mileage loss on gasohol is highly variable. Some vehicles on some blends do not experience any calculable loss in mileage, while others suffer precipitous drops of 10% or more.
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago #3
mixture to compensate for the lean condition the gasahol creates.
On a carbureted vehicle the engine will run hotter and likely get some predetonation under heavier loads. Predetonation will definitely reduce mileage and will also drastically shorten the life of the engine. The owner would have to jet the carb up a little to compensate for the gasahol, which of course would result in poorer mileage. Of course if no ill side effects are noticed from gasahol, leave the thing alone and mileage should not change much.
Since we`re on the topic of methanol blend gas... Does gasahol cost the same as straight gas? If so we can definitely see who is making money off of this. I would think it should cost less, as it isn`t going to give you the same mileage (and presumably doesn`t contain teh same amount of energy) as straight gas would.
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago #4
certain very small pockets of California and possibly one or two other specific places that have participated in fleet tests of flexible-fuel vehicles. "Gasohol" usually refers to gasoline blended with ethanol, not methanol. And Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether, an oxygenate present in some "reformulated" gasolines, is not the same as methanol. the Midwest. But another common tactic is to sell a nonblended regular gasoline at (say) $1.39/gal, a nonblended high-test gasoline at $1.59/gal, and -- this is the marketing bit -- a blended mid-test gasoline at $1.39/gal, the same price as the (unblended) regular gasoline.
This is possible only because there are *enormous* federal subsidies for the production and distribution of ethanol, primarily in place by dint of the lobbying efforts of Archer Daniels Midland, the company that produces the overwhelming majority of fuel ethanol in North America.
If these subsidies did not exist, a gallon of gasohol would cost *considerably* more than a gallon of gasoline.
This doesn`t even get into the net-negative fuel consumption and pollution issues (the ethanol production process uses more energy than it creates), nor the *increase* in certain kinds of emissions other than those ethanol is sometimes used to control, when ethanol is burned instead of unblended gasoline -- specifically NOx and aldehydes.
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #5
So Archer Daniels Midland is making big buck on gasohol. The explains why Florida Governor Christ was quick to mandate it.

My 1993 Nissan 240SX went from 24 to 19.8 miles per gallon, so I am using more gasoline as a portion of gasohol than I was using straight gasoline.

I'm going to call my state representative.
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #6
This sounds very disturbing
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